Engine to tight to turn over fast enough to fire ,not battery

Might be worth checking timing belt and see if it has jumped . Would be due changing now if not already done .

Thank you Whittingehame,I asked the mechanic at peugeot to check that out because when you try to turn engine over I am getting a squealing from the timing belt,asked them to check the tensioner to see if it had seized,they phoned me an hour ago saying it looks ok ,and all that they have done on it since thursday morning is given it a compression test,they said to me what do you want us to do next,I said please find out why it wont start,tell me then fix it then tell me how much to pay and when I can pick it up,He said he is going to leave it until wednesday when the boss is in before he can carry on with it,? this is the main dealer,just dont know what to do,he said we are only technicians ???????

If it is a main dealer ,surprised at what's happening and service or lack of it you are receiving . Is there no service manager or foreman to advise / guide you ? To say "it looks ok" is not really acceptable , it is either ok or not . Part of a technicians job is to diagnose and locate faults .Some one needs to have a good look to see if they can find the root of fault and what is causing squeal.Have they set the timing up to check if it has jumped some teeth? That's what I would look at first before going deeper.They should be advising you what to do , not asking you what to do next .One thing you shouldn't do is say you are getting advice from a forum / friend, as it gets up their nose . I know I hated it when it happened in my garage and many a time told them to take it to them for repair then .See what they say and if still getting nowhere might be worth taking car elsewhere for second opinion.Hope this helps.

Thanks again W,the mechanic said the only way he can tell is by taking the head off,which he has done at a cost of £400 plus vat,said he could see no faults at all ,and will tell his boss tomorrow (was on a course )told him to check the belts again,he said it was £400 to take the head off,and pay again to put back ?,this car was running perfect and only done 39.000 miles and never missed a service,told them I did not think it was the head ,or crank,they still say the belt setup looks ok ?have not mentioned this sight or said I have had advice, I have worked on cars for 35 years and other peoples,but now unable due to very poor health and will never get better, but still have a good knowledge and know when im talking to a mechanic if he knows his stuff,but will talk to his boss tomorrow, but what can I do I know im going to have a big problem with them ,I will be back in hospital soon, trying to sort out for my wife,have been trying to explain to them but they have no intention of listening,as if im trying to teach them to suck eggs,but its us that has to pay,thanks again tony.

surely if the compressions were down it would turn faster than with good compression might be worth trying to crank it without the coil pack plugged in as sometimes when these go down they try to fire cylinders at the wrong time and this can make them squeel and turn over irregular

thanks,with the plugs out car turns over as it should ,put plugs back car will not turn over fast enough to start ,but tries,fires the cuts out ???

leave the plugs in but unplug the multiplug on the coil pack then crank it

Very sorry to hear of your ill health and understand your predicament ,this is the last thing you need just now.They should have set up and checked timing in case it had jumped either because of tensioner or whatever before even thinking of removing head .Now they have removed head , probably needlessly as the have found no fault with valves etc. on strip down!!!!!! If the timing had jumped and was well out ie. over retarded / advanced it "kicks back " given the impression of battery or starter dragging .The more I hear , the more I am convinced that was fault . Wish I was in a better position to help but I am afraid you will have to see what transpires tomorrow with his boss ,best of luck mate.

thanks, tried to tell them to check belts and tensioner first,but just looked right through me,said we have to stip down to find the fault,will phone his boss in the morning,thanks again.tony ps though I was doing right to put the car into the main dealer for my wife

Peugeot had the car now since last thursday,they still dont know what is wrong with it,dont know what to do if they cant fix it ,do I still have to pay out hundreds of pounds for strip down if its only a simple fault which they should have really spotted straight away ????,now can't get to speak to anyone ,im getting!!! will get some one to phone you,but they dont,went over to see !!,manager is out ???

Just had phone call about the car,this is what they said,timing belt jumped a few teeth causing the timing to be out,this then bent three valves blowing the head causing water to get into the hydraulics,they are replacing the 8 valves,price for the job £850,I know I have been ripped off big time,think it was what you all said the timing belt, I did ask them to check ,the mechanic said it looked OK ? just had another call of them they said the tensioner had caused all the damage

Hi Tony , looks like I was correct with first post as was AA and yourself re tensioner and belt jumping .How did they not see tensioner knackered instead of saying "it looks o.k" ? After the mechanic took head off he said " he could see no faults " with three bent valves !!!!!!! I could go on about head being "blown " and other matters , but there is no point.I think you have had a right raw deal .I can see your thoughts on going to main dealer , but you pay way over the odds compared to small local garage . You were caught between a rock and a hard place .Hope you are back on the road soon .

Now peugeot in widnes are saying the power steering pump has seized and that is what caused the belt to jump,another £450 ,car still wont turn over cost now £1300 told them they are rubbish

Some one boobed badly checking the engine and you are paying for their mistakes .The tensioner and the pump should have been checked and seen to be faulty along with the valves in head after dismantling . Easy to check . Then they should have been on to you with a price for the whole job , not finding faults costing £100s as they go along .What are they going to say they have found next , a bent con rod ? or something else .Disgraceful.

they said they gave it a compression test and three where down OK!!! I said to the mechanic how did you get it to turn over he said it was fine with plugs out,any way they say they have repaired the head and belt tensioner,but when they put head back on it would not turn over like it was when brought in,would not turn over ,because of a seized steering pump,SO how could they have done the compression test if the work they had done made no difference,no way could they have done the compression test because car would not spin, I am so angry and upset because I know I have been ripped off,and I cant prove anything ,I did tie them in knots and now they have knocked £200 off,but the car is still there and still not running,THis is Peugeot in widnes,if I dont pay what they say can they keep the car ???

car now fixed,all new valves,new belts and tensioner,new power steering pump.oil and filter changed,1 year warranty on all work,running perfect ,fingers crossed,bill £1.068.0p.not as stressed now.there own power steering pump was £450,I said no,they got a new one from a motor factor shop £100 and put that on,saving a few hundred,thanks all