Windows will not drop to slit open position when opening doors.
2005 Vauxhall Tigra Sport 1.8 16v

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GeoffKing
Driver
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Problem added: Jan 13, 2021 (6 months ago)
When trying to open both doors the windows do not drop to the usual "slit" opening position. So the windows are in the fully up position making difficult to open doors and when you close the doors from the outside windows are on the outside of window rubbers. when inside the car can operate windows normally with ignition on, so fuses ok. Why doesn't the windows drop to Slit position when initially opening doors, from outside or inside car?

Car details
Car: Vauxhall Tigra
Variant: Sport 1.8 16v
Model Year: 2005
Category: Electrics, ECU, Warnings & Lights
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whittingehame
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Jan 13, 2021 (6 months ago) Edited on Jan 13, 2021 (6 months ago)
This shows a fuse for either side but also a 3 rd fuse #35

Vauxhall Tigra II (Twin Top) – (2004 – 2008) – fuse box diagram
Year of production: 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008

Fuse box in engine compartment
Vauxhall Tigra - fuse box - engine compartment -engine z13dt
Vauxhall Tigra – fuse box – engine compartment -engine z13dt
Vauxhall Tigra - fuse box - engine compartment - engine z13dt
Vauxhall Tigra – fuse box – engine compartment – engine z13dt
Vauxhall Ttigra - fuse box - engine compartment - others engine
Vauxhall Ttigra – fuse box – engine compartment – others engine
Vauxhall Tigra - fuse box - engine compartment - others engine
Vauxhall Tigra – fuse box – engine compartment – others engine
The fuse box is located in the engine compartment next to the coolant expansion tank.

Number Circuit
1 Central control unit
2 Engine control unit
3 Instruments, information display, light switch, horn, hazard warning lamps, immobiliser
4 —
5 Electric window (left)
6 —
7 —
8 Ignition switch, starter
9 Injection system, fuel pump
10 Horn
11 Central control unit
12 Information display, Infotainment system: engine Z 13 DT
13 Vauxhall alarm system
14 Heated exterior mirrors
15 Windscreen washer system
16 Courtesy lamp
17 Central control unit
18 Heated rear window
19 Electric window (right)
20 —
21 —
22 Central control unit, immobiliser
23 Windscreen wipers
24 Infotainment system, Information display, Light switch, Courtesy lamp, Instruments, ESP®Plus
25 Reversing lamps, cigarette lighter, accessory socket
26 Seat heater (right)
27 Seat heater (left)
28 ABS
29 Retractable steel roof
30 Engine control unit
31 Air conditioning system
32 ABS, airbag
33 Engine control
34 Diesel filter heater
35 Electric window, Infotainment system
36 Dipped beam (left)
37 Right dipped beam, headlamp range adjustment
38 Tail lamp (left), parking lamp (left)
39 Tail lamp (right), parking lamp (right)
40 Brake lamps, cruise control
41 Front fog lamps
42 Fog tail lamp
43 Main beam (left)
44 Main beam (right)
45 Ventilation fan
46 Engine control unit
47 Retractable steel roof
48 Starter
49 ESP
50 ABS, ESP
51 Petrol engine: Easytronic
Diesel engine: Engine control unit
52 Radiator fan
53 Radiator fan
54 —
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GeoffKing
Driver
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Jan 13, 2021 (6 months ago)
Replying to post by whittingehame:
This shows a fuse for either side but also a 3 rd fuse #35

Vauxhall Tigra II (Twin Top) – (2004 – 2008) – fuse box diagram
Year of production: 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008

Fuse box in engine compartment
Vauxhall Tigra - fuse box - engine compartment -engine z13dt
Vauxhall Tigra – fuse box – engine compartment -engine z13dt
Vauxhall Tigra - fuse box - engine compartment - engine z13dt
Vauxhall Tigra – fuse box – engine compartment – engine z13dt
Vauxhall Ttigra - fuse box - engine compartment - others engine
Vauxhall Ttigra – fuse box – engine compartment – others engine
Vauxhall Tigra - fuse box - engine compartment - others engine
Vauxhall Tigra – fuse box – engine compartment – others engine
The fuse box is located in the engine compartment next to the coolant expansion tank.

Number Circuit
1 Central control unit
2 Engine control unit
3 Instruments, information display, light switch, horn, hazard warning lamps, immobiliser
4 —
5 Electric window (left)
6 —
7 —
8 Ignition switch, starter
9 Injection system, fuel pump
10 Horn
11 Central control unit
12 Information display, Infotainment system: engine Z 13 DT
13 Vauxhall alarm system
14 Heated exterior mirrors
15 Windscreen washer system
16 Courtesy lamp
17 Central control unit
18 Heated rear window
19 Electric window (right)
20 —
21 —
22 Central control unit, immobiliser
23 Windscreen wipers
24 Infotainment system, Information display, Light switch, Courtesy lamp, Instruments, ESP®Plus
25 Reversing lamps, cigarette lighter, accessory socket
26 Seat heater (right)
27 Seat heater (left)
28 ABS
29 Retractable steel roof
30 Engine control unit
31 Air conditioning system
32 ABS, airbag
33 Engine control
34 Diesel filter heater
35 Electric window, Infotainment system
36 Dipped beam (left)
37 Right dipped beam, headlamp range adjustment
38 Tail lamp (left), parking lamp (left)
39 Tail lamp (right), parking lamp (right)
40 Brake lamps, cruise control
41 Front fog lamps
42 Fog tail lamp
43 Main beam (left)
44 Main beam (right)
45 Ventilation fan
46 Engine control unit
47 Retractable steel roof
48 Starter
49 ESP
50 ABS, ESP
51 Petrol engine: Easytronic
Diesel engine: Engine control unit
52 Radiator fan
53 Radiator fan
54 —
Dear whittingehame,
Thank you for the information I will check the 3rd fuse, #35 tomorrow morning, as it is raining quite heavy at the moment. I will let you know if that solves the problem.
GeoffKing
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whittingehame
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Jan 13, 2021 (6 months ago)
I don't think resetting the windows would fix it , but worth a try by holding window in down position for 10 secs and then likewise in the up position . Also heard a suggestion that a low car battery can cause it too , but a bit dubious of that but would not rule it out .
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GeoffKing
Driver
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Jan 15, 2021 (6 months ago)
Replying to post by whittingehame:
I don't think resetting the windows would fix it , but worth a try by holding window in down position for 10 secs and then likewise in the up position . Also heard a suggestion that a low car battery can cause it too , but a bit dubious of that but would not rule it out .
Hello whittingehame,
Once again thank you for your help/suggestions in trying to solve my problem.
Unfortunately, I have tried them all, plus disconnecting the battery for several hours before reconnecting, to try and reset system(suggested by a Vauxhall service department agent), none of them have solved the problem.

Looks like I may have to take it in for re-programming.

Thanks again for your help.

Geoff King
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whittingehame
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Jan 15, 2021 (6 months ago)
Sorry we couldn't solve it but there has to be a micro switch , module . lock assembly , or something else to trigger the window drop . But I cant remember what solved it as it was either my bodyshop or auto electricians who were given the one or two we had over the years to fix . As you say Tech 3 / reprogramming may be the answer . Grateful if you could update the forum on the solution .
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GeoffKing
Driver
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Jan 15, 2021 (6 months ago)
Replying to post by whittingehame:
Sorry we couldn't solve it but there has to be a micro switch , module . lock assembly , or something else to trigger the window drop . But I cant remember what solved it as it was either my bodyshop or auto electricians who were given the one or two we had over the years to fix . As you say Tech 3 / reprogramming may be the answer . Grateful if you could update the forum on the solution .
Hi whittingehame,
I have discovered that the electric roof will not open either, just get the beeping sound when lifting switch, is this linked to my window drop problem?
Boot operates normally.
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whittingehame
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Jan 15, 2021 (6 months ago)
Checked the rear boot panel ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNJr76N-1Nw
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whittingehame
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Jan 15, 2021 (6 months ago)
Checked the car battery voltage when engine cold and not started ?
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GeoffKing
Driver
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Jan 16, 2021 (6 months ago)
Replying to post by whittingehame:
Checked the car battery voltage when engine cold and not started ?
Car battery voltage is fine.

The roof operation set up, boot panel/partition pulled back towards opening and fully engaged into locked position. two locking levers on inside of car roof fully opened/released, handbrake on, ignition on -Roof opening does not operate, just get continuous acoustic sound.
This must be linked to the window problem as the windows are supposed to drop at the start of the roof opening operation.
Do they share an ECU? Relay? or something.
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GeoffKing
Driver
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Jan 16, 2021 (6 months ago)
Replying to post by GeoffKing:
Car battery voltage is fine.

The roof operation set up, boot panel/partition pulled back towards opening and fully engaged into locked position. two locking levers on inside of car roof fully opened/released, handbrake on, ignition on -Roof opening does not operate, just get continuous acoustic sound.
This must be linked to the window problem as the windows are supposed to drop at the start of the roof opening operation.
Do they share an ECU? Relay? or something.
Dear whittingehame,
Correction: the roof does operate, by opening and closing ok, (one bolt not fully engaged before), but the windows still do not drop, when roof starts to open.

Booked in Tuesday, next week for a re-programme/reset to see if that sorts it, will let you know if it or something else solves the problem.
Geoff King
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whittingehame
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Jan 16, 2021 (6 months ago)
Checking with OPCOM /Tech 3 and reprogramming the roof control module hopefully will resolve it . Gone are the days when cars were relatively easy to fix prior to technology taking over !!!
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GeoffKing
Driver
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Jan 20, 2021 (6 months ago)
Dear whittigehame,
The roof operation is working fine, just had not fully engaged the partition/panel in boot.
As for the windows not dropping it went in yesterday for its Tech3/reprogramming. Unfortunately, it did not show any Fault Codes and reprogramming did not fix my problem.
They seem to think that there may well be a problem with the Body Control Module(BCM), but could not be certain, however there does not appear to be any water ingress or corrosion on it. They said that there was no guarantee that changing the BCM would fix the problem, so couldn't/wouldn't justify buying a new BCM at £300+ or de-paired used BCM, if it didn't guarantee fixing the problem. Suggestion, wait to see if anything else starts to go wrong, which would indicate a fault with the BCM, then consider that it may be worthwhile change the BCM.
Sorry I could not pass on a fix to you, but thanks again for all your help.
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whittingehame
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Jan 20, 2021 (6 months ago)
Really surprised they could not find and rectify for definite a very common fault or show fault codes . I ran a GM dealership and if I had anything similar that was giving my workshop problems I would phone direct to Vauxhall Technical services for advice / guidance on the matter .
Again , amazed they haven't solved this .
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